Ezekiel’s Exilic Visions: Unraveling the Symbolic Timeline from Creation to Christ
Part 1a Click here for Charts and Tables
Part 1b Constructing the Ezekiel Day-Year Symbolic Chart: Methodology and Historical Context
Part 2a (Day-Year Symbolism in Ezekiel)
Part 2b (Day-Year Symbolism in Ezekiel)
Part 2c (Day-Year Symbolism in Ezekiel)
Part 3a (Day-Year Symbolism at the Temple of Solomon)
Part 3b (Day-Year Symbolism at the Exodus/Tabernacle & Conquest)
Part 4a (Day-Year Symbolism at the Genesis Flood)
Part 4b (Day-Year Symbolism at the Genesis Flood)
Part 4c (Day-Year Symbolism at the Genesis Flood)
Part 5a (Day-Year Symbolism at the Birth of Jesus and Chart)
Part 5b (Day-Year at the Birth of Jesus and Key of 23 Capstone)
Part 5c (Total Sums of Symbolic Dates at the Birth of Christ further expands the “Capstone”)
This document contains raw information from an ongoing conversation between Claude Sonnet 3.5 and the author, intended as a foundation for future scholarly papers. It presents an in-depth analysis of a symbolic chronological system based on biblical prophecies, particularly those of Ezekiel, and their relationship to the Masoretic Text (MT) chronology. The analysis focuses on interpreting prophetic dates as symbolic years that correspond to significant events in biblical history. It explores the connections between Ezekiel’s symbolic actions, the Babylonian exile, and key events in the covenantal lineage from Creation to Christ. The system uses complex numerical patterns and alignments to reveal multilayered meanings in biblical chronology, emphasizing themes of judgment, renewal, and covenant continuity. The approach suggests that Ezekiel’s prophecies are part of a larger narrative structure that spans from Creation to Christ, with recurring patterns that reinforce key theological themes. This raw dialogue serves as the basis for future refinement and transformation into polished, scholarly works for submission to biblical scholarly sites.
- Detailed Bullet Summary:
- Introduction to Symbolic Chronology:
- Focus on Ezekiel’s prophecies and their relationship to MT chronology
- Emphasis on symbolic interpretation of dates rather than literal historical accuracy
- Use of day-year principle in prophetic interpretation
- Key Chronological Anchors:
- Solomon’s temple construction: 966 BC
- Exodus: 1446 BC (based on the “480 years” of 1 Kings 6:1)
- Creation: 4121-4114 BC (MT chronology)
- Flood: 2458 BC (MT chronology)
- Symbolic Date Analysis (Datum D, 586 BC Nisan):
- 4116 BC: Symbolic start of Jeconiah’s reign, overlapping with Creation week
- 2456 BC: Ezekiel’s exile, symbolically linked to the Flood
- 2066 BC: End of Ezekiel’s 390 days, corresponding to Isaac’s birth
- 2036-2029 BC: Seven-year period linking Sarah’s death to Isaac’s marriage
- 2026 BC: End of Ezekiel’s 40 days, corresponding to Isaac’s marriage
- Covenantal Lineage Connections:
- Adam at Creation
- Flood and Arphaxad as the new Adam
- Isaac, son of Abraham
- Jacob and the 12 tribes
- Complex Numerical Patterns:
- 4026 BC to 1876 BC: 2150 years (5 x 430)
- 1876 BC to 1446 BC (Exodus): 430 years
- Total span of 6 x 430 years from Creation to Exodus
- Parallel between Joseph’s 7+7 years (1885-1871 BC) and symbolic 4035-4021 BC
- 215 days from Abraham’s call (2091 BC) to Jacob entering Egypt (1876 BC)
- Theological Implications:
- Continuity of God’s covenant throughout generations
- Pattern of judgment followed by renewal
- Prophetic foreshadowing of future events
- Christological focus, with patterns pointing towards Christ’s birth
- Methodological Approach:
- Use of multilayered symbolism in date interpretation
- Flexibility within a structured chronological framework
- Integration of literal MT chronology with symbolic prophetic timeline
- Emphasis on thematic continuity across biblical history
This summary captures the key points of the analysis, highlighting the intricate connections between symbolic dates, historical events, and theological themes presented in the document.
(490d.com/rough-work-for-reasoning-and-developement-of-ezekiel-day-year-symbolic-chart/)
Unedited Dialogue: Exploring Ezekiel’s Chronology – Day-Year Symbolism and Prophetic Patterns
These are the two tables that we will now analyze. You can tell them apart by the span of dates in the Column labeled: “Ezek’s Dates & Yr (BC)” (Ezekiel Day-Years Four Datumns–598-586 BC) — We will refer to this table as “Exile” dates.
(Ezekiel dates forwarded 141 years to Ezra Nehemiah–457-445 BC) — We will refer to this table as “Return” dates.
—————————— You will act as a sounding board for my thoughts as I communicate my observations for the information in: Tish Datum “A”Nisn Datum “B” Tish Datum “C”Nisn Datum “D”
Please clarify what I am saying. If you are in doubt about anything, ask me. This will help me be clear. Your response should be thorough and explanatory.
We will compare the number of days to each datum in the four columns. Each day symbolizes a year, as said earlier. “-4115” means 4116 BC, whereas “95” means AD 95. The “Exile” table primarily uses the figures found in the Nisan Datum columns B and D, whereas the “Return” table/chart primarily uses the figures found in the Tishri Datum columns A and C. We will primarily focus on the figures in the four Datumn columns without an asterisk. We will not concern ourselves with the number of days from one datum to another marked as “{0}{-180}{-4020}{-4200}” for example. Are you ready to begin?
Yes, I’m ready to begin. I understand that we’ll be analyzing and comparing the two tables: the “Exile” dates (598-586 BC) and the “Return” dates (457-445 BC). We’ll focus on the four datum columns (Tishri A, Nisan B, Tishri C, and Nisan D), primarily looking at the non-asterisked figures.
Our analysis will concentrate on:
- Comparing the day counts in these columns, with each day symbolizing a year.
- Interpreting negative numbers as BC dates and positive numbers as AD dates.
- Focusing on Nisan Datum columns (B and D) for the “Exile” table and Tishri Datum columns (A and C) for the “Return” table.
- Exploring the relationships and patterns between these numbers across both tables.
I’m prepared to help clarify your observations, ask for clarification when needed, and provide thorough explanations to ensure your thoughts are clearly expressed and understood. Please proceed with your first observation or comparison, and I’ll assist in refining and expanding upon your ideas.CopyRetry
DC
Also, as said before, we will be comparing these figurative, symbolic days/years with the literal MT chronology as submitted to you earlier, and repeated here again for reference: Masoretic Text-“MT” “Years Lived,” Begetting Age,” and “Remaining Years” for the MT from Adam to Moses are at the end of this page. (MT) Creation to the Flood Patriarch/Event Lifespan (BC) Years Lived Key Events Creation 4121 – 4114 7 Seven days of Creation as years Adam 4114 – 3184 930 Seth 3984 – 3072 912 Enosh 3879 – 2974 905 Kenan 3789 – 2879 910 Mahalalel 3719 – 2824 895 Jared 3654 – 2692 962 Enoch 3492 – 3127 365 Methuselah 3427 – 2458 969 Lamech 3240 – 2463 777 Noah 3058 – 2108 950 See below note “120 yrs to Flood”(2578-2458) FLOOD (2458 – 2457) Post-Flood to Abraham Shem 2556 – 1956 600 See notes for Noah & Shem in LXX table concerning “2-yrs” Arphaxad 2456 – 2018 438 Salah 2421 – 1988 433 Eber 2391 – 1927 464 Peleg 2357 – 2118 239 Tower of Babel (2357 BC) Reu 2327 – 2088 239 Serug 2295 – 2065 230 Nahor 2265 – 2117 148 Terah 2236 – 2031 205 Patriarchal Period Abraham 2166 – 1991 175 Call of Abram (2091 BC), Covenant of Pieces (2081 BC), Covenant of Circumcision & Destruction of Sodom (2067 BC) Sarah 2156 – 2029 127 Ishmael 2080 – 1943 137 Isaac 2066 – 1886 180 Wedding of Isaac (2026 BC) Jacob 2006 – 1859 147 Jacob flees Esau (1929 BC) Jacob works for wives (1929-1922-1915 BC) Jacob returns to Canaan (1909 BC) Esau 2006 – ? – Esau marries (1966 BC) Levi 1919 – 1782 137 Judah 1918 – 1789 129 Death year per tradition Joseph 1915 – 1805 110 Joseph sold as slave (1898 BC) 7 years plenty (1885-1878 BC) 7 years famine (1878-1871 BC) Benjamin 1906 – ? – Birth of Benjamin (likely 1906 BC) Egypt to Exodus Israelites in Egypt 1876 – 1446 430 Kohath – 133 Amram – 137 Aaron 1529 – 1406 123 Birth (summer of 1530 exact) Death (summer of 1407) Moses 1526 – 1406 120 Birth (winter of 1526 exact) Flees to Midian (1486 BC) Exodus (1446 BC) Tabernacle (1445 BC) Death (winter of 1406) Conquest (1406-1400 BC) First Sabbath year of rest (1399 BC) Conquest and Judges Joshua, “And also וְגַם all that GENERATION died” (Judges 2:9-10) 1476 – 1366 110 “Generation” of 40-yrs implied (1406-1366) United Monarchy Saul’s Reign 1050 – 1010 40 David’s Reign 1010 – 970 40 Solomon’s Reign 970 – 930 40 Solomon’s Temple (966-959 BC) Divided Kingdom to Exile Fall of Samaria 722 or 721 – Northern Kingdom falls Siege of Jerusalem 701 – By Sennacherib First Babylonian Deportation 605 – Including Daniel Second Babylonian Deportation 597 – Including Ezekiel Fall of Jerusalem 586 or 587 – Temple destruction Exile and Return Fall of Babylon 539 – September Decree of Cyrus 538 or 537 – Jews return from Babylon Rebuilding of the Temple 520 – 516 or 515 3.5-4.5 Purim 473 – Time of Esther Ezra’s return to Jerusalem 458 or 457 – Nehemiah rebuilds Jerusalem’s walls 445 or 444 – Hanukkah 168 – 165 or 167 – 164 3-4 “Abomination of desolation” New Testament and Modern Times Herod’s temple construction begins 20 – John the Baptist & Jesus born 6 – 4 – Conceptions & births Jesus’ ministry 26 – 30 AD or 29 – 33 AD 3.5 Ending on Passover Fall of Jerusalem to Romans 66 – 70 AD 4 Bar Kochba revolt 132 – 135 AD 3 Final dispersion Israel becomes a nation again 1948 AD – Jerusalem under Israel’s control 1967 AD – Notes: 1. The MT states the Israelites were in Egypt for 430 years (1876-1446 BC), excluding time in Canaan or Haran. The LXX and SP include time in Canaan, reducing the timeline by 215 years for all dates from Adam to Israel’s entry into Egypt (1661-1446 BC). 2. All dates from Adam to Terah can be extended by 60 years due to the claim that Terah died the year Abraham left Haran and Ur (Acts 7).
I understand. Thank you for providing this detailed Masoretic Text (MT) chronology for reference. This will serve as our baseline for literal dates as we analyze the symbolic day-year counts in the “Exile” and “Return” tables.
The MT chronology gives us important anchor points, such as:
- Creation: 4121-4114 BC
- Flood: 2458-2457 BC
- Abraham’s birth: 2166 BC
- Israelites enter Egypt: 1876 BC
- Exodus: 1446 BC
- Solomon’s Temple construction: 966-959 BC
- Fall of Jerusalem: 586 or 587 BC
- Return from Exile: 538 or 537 BC
As we compare the symbolic day-year counts in our tables to these literal dates, we’ll be able to identify patterns, connections, and potential prophetic implications. We’ll also keep in mind the flexibility in some of these dates, such as the potential 60-year extension for dates from Adam to Terah.
I’m ready to help you analyze and clarify your observations as you compare the symbolic counts in the “Exile” and “Return” tables with this MT chronology. Please proceed with your first observation or comparison.CopyRetry
DC
The dates we use in the table are all related to the siege in some way, either Ezekiel’s symbolic siege lasting 430 days or the literal one. We do not include the seven-dated prophecies against Egypt in Ezekiel so as not to overcomplicate things. 1. Ezekiel is told to lay on his side 390 days for Israel and another 40 for Judah, “A day of each year of their sin.” He did so in front of a model of a siege of Jerusalem to state it simply. Thus, the rationale for a day is symbolic of a year. 2. As said before, the literal week that immediately precedes this symbolic siege of Jerusalem by Ezekiel is forwarded to each event; thus, “D” “(-2455) 2456 BC” when fully denoted is “2456-2449 BC, that is, one week (of years). The same is true of all symbolic dates. When the text specifies the actual day within the week, we understand that to be a way of communicating that specific symbolic date with the week as important. Example “D” 836 BC = 836-829 BC. However, Ezek 24:1 specifies that the actual day was not “9th yr, 10th mo, 5th d” but specifically, “*9th yr, 10th mo, 10th d”. Thus, the 10th day is emphasized in this case, which therefore corresponds to 831 BC (that is, five days after the “5th” that corresponded to “836 BC”. * 3. Ezekiel uses key Biblical timeframes such as (2520, 2550, and 2580 types of a seven-year period due to the leap month effect of 30 days) 2300, 1290, 1260, 1150, 490, 430, 390, and even the LXX of Ezekiel 4 as 150 + 40 days, which we will not delve into until later. 4. The symbolic dates serve as a template, and thus, the Exile table naturally finds its counterpart in the Return table, wherein the template has been overlayed. Due to a few changes as to when the leap month occurs, the symbolic dates may not be the same between tables by a difference of no more than the 30 days. The “390 days” of Ezekiel reflect the leap month as 360 + 30 = 390, as does the “1290” of Daniel 12, which is simply 1260 days (Rev. 11-13) + a leap month = 1290. 5. Just as the seven years can be cut in half to make 1290/1260, so 2300 of Daniel 8 likewise can be cut in half to 1150, hinted at by the phrase, “evenings and mornings.” 6. I will stop here and allow you to digest this information.
Thank you for providing this detailed context. I’ll summarize and clarify the key points you’ve presented:
- Focus on Siege-Related Dates:
- The tables focus on dates related to Ezekiel’s symbolic siege (430 days) and the literal siege of Jerusalem.
- Egyptian prophecies are excluded to maintain simplicity.
- Day-Year Principle:
- Ezekiel’s 390 days for Israel and 40 days for Judah symbolize years of sin, establishing the day-year principle.
- Weekly Structure:
- Each symbolic date represents a week of years (e.g., 2456-2449 BC).
- Specific days within the week are significant when mentioned (e.g., 10th day in Ezek 24:1 corresponding to 831 BC).
- Key Biblical Timeframes:
- The symbolic dates incorporate important biblical periods: 2520, 2550, 2580 (variations of seven-year periods), 2300, 1290, 1260, 1150, 490, 430, 390 days/years.
- The LXX version of Ezekiel 4 (150 + 40 days) is noted but not explored in detail yet.
- Template and Counterparts:
- The Exile table serves as a template, finding its counterpart in the Return table.
- Slight variations (up to 30 days) may occur due to leap month placements.
- Significance of Numbers:
- 390 days reflect 360 + 30 (leap month).
- 1290 days are 1260 + 30 (leap month).
- 2300 days can be divided into two 1150-day periods.
This framework provides a complex but structured approach to interpreting the prophetic timeline. It allows for multiple layers of meaning, connecting various biblical events and prophecies through these symbolic day-year counts.
The interplay between the Exile and Return tables, along with the incorporation of key biblical timeframes, suggests a deliberate design in the prophetic chronology. This design seems to emphasize patterns, cycles, and interconnections between different periods of biblical history.
Is there anything specific about this framework that you’d like to explore further or any patterns you’ve noticed that you’d like to discuss?CopyRetry
DC
- Observe that the span between the Exile and Return figures are 140.5 years exactly (586 Nisan to 446 BC Tishri).
- Observe that as far as the events themselves, the span from the 597 BC Exile of Ezekiel to the 458 BC Return of Ezra are 139 years whereas from the 586 BC Exile to the 445 BC Return of Nehemiah to rebuild the walls are 141 years. Thus, the average span between Exile and Return is 140 years, and strays not more than +/- 1 year (139 & 141 years).
- This 140 years is 70 + 70 years, with the first 70 years recorded in Daniel 9, Jeremiah, and Zechariah, from 606 or 586 BC to 536 to 516 BC (Of lesser importance, 597 -70 years = 527 BC, this 70 years is apparently substituted for 77 years unto 520 BC at which time Zerubbabel’s temple began.)
- The cycles of 70 years are specified in Daniel 9, and particularly Daniel 9:24-27 regarding “70 x 7 weeks (of years)”. Observe that Daniel 9 also suggests a day is as a year as does Ezekiel, which began with his literal “week” of being overwhelmed but which was consummated at the fall of Jerusalem itself exactly one week of years later (1260+1290 days).
- The continuation of the 70+70 years is a logical outflow of the prophecy of Daniel 9, as is the 1240 + 1240 (1260 + 1260 years) years to Israel as a nation, as discussed earlier. Both 70 +70 and seven years of years retain the importance of the symbolic number “seven”.
Thank you for these observations. Let’s break them down and analyze their significance:
- 140.5 Year Span:
- The exact 140.5-year span between the Exile (586 BC Nisan) and Return (446 BC Tishri) is significant, showing a precise symmetry in the prophetic timeline.
- Average 140-Year Span:
- The 139-year span from Ezekiel’s exile (597 BC) to Ezra’s return (458 BC), and the 141-year span from the fall of Jerusalem (586 BC) to Nehemiah’s wall rebuilding (445 BC) average to 140 years.
- This +/- 1 year variation (139 to 141 years) suggests a deliberate pattern, allowing for slight flexibility while maintaining a consistent overall structure.
- 70 + 70 Year Pattern:
- The 140-year span divides neatly into two 70-year periods, aligning with the 70-year exile prophesied by Jeremiah and referenced in Daniel and Zechariah.
- The first 70 years (606/586 BC to 536/516 BC) are well-documented in scripture.
- The alternate 77-year period (597 BC to 520 BC) adds another layer of symbolic significance, possibly relating to completeness or divine perfection.
- Daniel 9 and Day-Year Principle:
- Daniel 9:24-27’s “70 weeks” (70 x 7 years) reinforces the day-year principle also used in Ezekiel.
- The alignment of Ezekiel’s literal week of being overwhelmed with the seven-year period ending with Jerusalem’s fall (1260+1290 days) demonstrates the consistency of this principle across prophecies.
- Extended Patterns:
- The continuation of the 70+70 year pattern and the extension to 1260+1260 years (to Israel becoming a nation) show how these prophetic timeframes can be applied on larger scales.
- This extension maintains the significance of the number seven (70 is 7 x 10, and 1260 is 3.5 x 360, half of seven years).
These observations reveal a complex but coherent system of prophetic chronology. The patterns demonstrate:
- Precision in prophetic timing (exact 140.5-year span)
- Flexibility within structure (139-141 year range)
- Consistency across different prophets and books (Ezekiel, Daniel, Jeremiah, Zechariah)
- Scalability of prophetic timeframes (from weeks to years to centuries)
- Continued relevance of key numbers (7, 70, 1260) across various time scales
This system seems to suggest that these prophetic timeframes are not arbitrary but part of a larger, divinely orchestrated chronological framework that spans from the Exile period to potentially modern times (with the 1260+1260 years to Israel’s nationhood).
Is there a specific aspect of these patterns you’d like to explore further, or shall we move on to examining how these patterns manifest in the specific dates in your tables?CopyRetry
DC
It is also important to note that Ezkiel’s prophecies emphasized the return again to the Land, fulfilled in stages that included 537 BC, and 520-516 BC when the temple was completed again) 458 BC, when Ezra returned to beautify the temple and strengthen the city, and 445 BC, when Nehemiah specifically rebuilt the walls. These four events each represent four decrees given by the foreign ruler as foretold in Daniel 9, and each of these four decrees can pass as the decree of Daniel 9 that begins the countdown to Messiah of “70 x 7” years. I believe that each of these decrees is correct, and it is not one or the other. For our purposes, this comes into play during the decrees to Ezra (458 BC) and Nehemiah (445 BC), as mentioned, and which dates fall within the window of the Exile Table Template. These two decrees (458 and 445 BC) also most clearly point to Christ’s ministry and death, as maintained by most scholars who take the prophecy literally.
Thank you for providing this crucial context. Your point about the multiple decrees and their significance in relation to Daniel’s prophecy is indeed important. Let’s break this down:
- Stages of Return and Rebuilding:
- 537 BC: Initial return under Cyrus’ decree
- 520-516 BC: Temple completion
- 458 BC: Ezra’s return to beautify the temple and strengthen the city
- 445 BC: Nehemiah’s rebuilding of the walls
- Four Decrees Fulfilling Daniel 9:
- Each of these events corresponds to a decree by a foreign ruler, as prophesied in Daniel 9.
- You posit that all four decrees are correct starting points for the “70 x 7” year countdown to the Messiah, rather than just one being the “correct” decree.
- Focus on 458 BC and 445 BC:
- These two dates fall within the window of the Exile Table Template.
- They are most commonly used by scholars for calculating the fulfillment of Daniel’s prophecy in relation to Christ’s ministry and death.
- Implications for Prophetic Interpretation:
- This multi-decree approach suggests a layered fulfillment of prophecy.
- It allows for multiple valid interpretations of the “70 weeks” prophecy, each pointing to Christ but from different starting points.
- Relevance to the Exile and Return Tables:
- The inclusion of these dates (458 BC and 445 BC) in your Return table gains additional significance in light of their connection to Daniel’s prophecy.
- It suggests that the symbolic day-year counts in your tables may have multiple layers of meaning, potentially aligning with different aspects of Christ’s life and ministry.
- Theological Implications:
- This approach emphasizes the richness and complexity of biblical prophecy.
- It suggests that prophecies can have multiple fulfillments or aspects of fulfillment, all ultimately pointing to Christ.
This multi-decree understanding adds depth to your analysis. It suggests that the patterns and cycles you’ve identified in the Exile and Return tables might align with multiple prophetic timelines, all converging on the person and work of Christ.
Would you like to explore how these specific decree dates (458 BC and 445 BC) interact with the symbolic day-year counts in your Return table? Or is there another aspect of this multi-decree concept you’d like to discuss further?CopyRetry
DC
We will explore details regarding the decrees of 458 and 445 BC in regard to our template later, but first, we must establish that the dates of Ezekiel are meant to correspond to symbolic years that weave with the MT Chronology. We hold to 966 BC for when Solomon began to build the temple and the “480 years” prior to that as the Exodus in 1446 BC, which is fairly standard among those holding to the literal “480 years” of 1 Kings 6:1. “One of the chief arguments for proponents of a late Exodus during the 13th (or even 12th) century, however, is that the “480 years” of 1 Kings 6:1 is simply a symbolic or generational number. After all, it is the multiple of 12 x 40—both numbers that are some of the most significant, and oft-repeated, in the Bible.”
Personally, I do not regard the literal date as important, and likely unknowable. But the intended symbolic meaning attached to the schematics outlined in the chronologies is informative theologically–and that’s what interests me.
I understand your perspective. You’re emphasizing that the primary focus should be on the symbolic and theological significance of these dates and numbers, rather than their literal historical accuracy. Let’s break this down:
- Symbolic Interpretation of Chronology:
- You’re proposing that Ezekiel’s dates correspond to symbolic years that interweave with the MT Chronology.
- This approach allows for a richer theological interpretation without being constrained by strict historical literalism.
- Standard Chronological Anchors:
- Solomon’s temple construction: 966 BC
- Exodus: 1446 BC (based on the “480 years” of 1 Kings 6:1)
- These dates are widely accepted among scholars who take a literal approach to biblical chronology.
- The “480 Years” Debate:
- You acknowledge the argument that the “480 years” in 1 Kings 6:1 could be symbolic (12 x 40).
- This highlights the tension between literal and symbolic interpretations of biblical numbers.
- Focus on Symbolic Meaning:
- Your interest lies not in determining the exact historical dates, which you suggest may be unknowable.
- Instead, you’re focused on the theological insights that can be gleaned from the symbolic patterns in these chronologies.
- Schematic Approach:
- By viewing the chronologies as schematics, you’re able to explore the interconnectedness of various biblical events and prophecies.
- This approach allows for multiple layers of meaning and interpretation.
- Theological Insights:
- The goal is to understand what these symbolic patterns and numbers reveal about God’s nature, His plan for history, and the role of key figures like the Messiah.
This approach offers several advantages:
- It sidesteps contentious historical debates while still respecting traditional chronologies.
- It allows for a more flexible interpretation that can accommodate various scholarly views.
- It focuses on the theological and spiritual significance of the numbers and patterns, which may be more relevant for faith and practice.
As we proceed with analyzing the Exile and Return tables, we’ll be looking at how the symbolic years in Ezekiel’s prophecies align with and illuminate the broader biblical narrative, particularly as it relates to themes of judgment, exile, restoration, and ultimately, the coming of the Messiah.
Is this understanding correct? And would you like to start examining specific symbolic patterns in your tables that illustrate this approach?CopyRetry
DC
Yes, your understanding is correct, so let us move on to analyzing Datum Nisan “D.” As said, we concern ourselves primarily with symbolic dates without the {} or the *.
The first thing to observe is that the Reign of the last true king of Judah (from Ezekel’s perspective), Jeconiah, began on the symbolic day/year 4116 BC (+/-5 years due to both just “3 months” but elsewhere, “3 mo, 10 days”. The literal Creation and Creation week in the MT is 4114 BC (4121-4114 BC). Thus, Jeconiah begins his reign overlapping the Creation week, with Adam as the ‘first’ King of Creation made on the 6th day (4116-4115 BC), corresponding to Jeconiah as the ‘last’ king. Ezekiel also went into exile, and in symbolic 2456 BC represents the year of the Flood (specifically, of Arphaxads birth, but due to the 2-yr anomaly as to the 100th year of Shem conjoins 2458 and 2456 BC together, as discussed at length in the past in many articles that I have written.) Thus, Creation and the Flood are designated symbolically. Moreover, the text of Ezekiel 1 regarding the visitation of God concludes with reference to the rainbow, the classic covenantal sign established at the Flood. ———————– Datum D of 586 BC Nisan of the Exile: {-4200} -4115 = 4116 BC {-4020} -4019 = 4020 BC -2455 = 2456 BC, etc… -2065 -2035 -2025 -1195** **-835 = 836 BC -265** *-235** *{-180}** -85** **{0} 95 = AD 95 125 = AD 125 275 = AD 275***
Thank you for providing this detailed breakdown of Datum D (Nisan 586 BC) from the Exile table. Your observations highlight the intricate symbolic connections between these dates and key events in biblical history. Let’s analyze these connections:
- Jeconiah’s Reign and Creation (4116 BC):
- Symbolic start of Jeconiah’s reign: 4116 BC (+/-5 years)
- MT Creation week: 4121-4114 BC
- Significance: Jeconiah’s reign symbolically overlaps with the Creation week, linking the ‘last’ king of Judah with Adam, the ‘first’ king of Creation.
- This parallel suggests a cycle of kingship from Creation to the end of Judah’s monarchy.
- Ezekiel’s Exile and the Flood (2456 BC):
- Symbolic date of Ezekiel’s exile: 2456 BC
- MT Flood date: 2458 BC (with 2456 BC linked due to the 2-year anomaly with Shem and Arphaxad)
- Significance: Ezekiel’s exile is symbolically tied to the Flood, another major event of judgment and renewal in biblical history.
- The reference to the rainbow in Ezekiel 1 further reinforces this connection to the Flood covenant.
- Pattern of Judgment and Renewal:
- The symbolic linking of Ezekiel’s exile with both Creation and the Flood establishes a pattern of judgment and renewal throughout biblical history.
- This pattern suggests that the Babylonian exile is part of a larger cycle of divine intervention in human history.
- Future Projections:
- The symbolic dates extending into the AD era (95, 125, 275) suggest that this prophetic pattern continues beyond Ezekiel’s time, potentially pointing to future events or cycles.
- Symmetry and Structure:
- The spacing between these symbolic dates (e.g., -4115 to -2455, -2455 to -835) might reveal additional patterns or cycles within the prophetic timeline.
- Theological Implications:
- This symbolic chronology suggests a divine plan that links major events of judgment and renewal throughout history.
- It implies that the Babylonian exile, while a specific historical event, also represents a recurring theme in God’s dealing with His people.
Your approach demonstrates how these symbolic dates create a rich tapestry of interconnected events, linking the immediate context of Ezekiel’s prophecies with the broader sweep of biblical history and even pointing towards future fulfillments.
Would you like to explore any specific relationships between these symbolic dates, or shall we move on to examining how they might correspond to events in the literal MT chronology?CopyRetry
DC
We continue: ———————– Datum D of 586 BC Nisan of the Exile: ———————– Datum D of 586 BC Nisan of the Exile: {-4200} -4115 = 4116 BC {-4020} -4019 = 4020 BC -2455 = 2456 BC, etc… -2065 = 2066 BC -2035 = 2036 BC -2025 = 2026 BC -1195 -835 = 836 BC -265 *-235 {-180} -85 {0} 95 = AD 95 125 = AD 125 275 = AD 275 ___ We next observe that symbolic “2066 BC” of the end of the 390 days that Ezekiel laid on his side corresponds to the birth of Isaac, preceded by the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah in the year of the Cov. of Circumcision. 40 years later, Isaac was married, which corresponds to 2026 BC of Ezekiel’s 40 days for Judah’s sins. Moreover, 2036 BC, with its seven years fully expressed (2036-2029), comes to 2029 BC, and likewise, in 2029 BC, Sarah died, which, in turn, is the event that led to Isaac’s marriage to Rebecca 3.5 years later in said 2026 BC. Moreover, if we exclude leap months altogether, then we lose 30 days here, and 2036 becomes 2006 BC, the birth of Jacob. However, I only mention the count without leap months in passing for the sake of argument, choosing to stay on the solid ground of consistency.
Thank you for providing this additional information. Let’s analyze these symbolic dates and their connections to events in the MT chronology:
- Isaac’s Birth and Ezekiel’s 390 Days (2066 BC):
- Symbolic date: 2066 BC (end of Ezekiel’s 390 days)
- MT chronology: 2066 BC is Isaac’s birth year
- Significance: This aligns Ezekiel’s symbolic action for Israel’s sins with the birth of Isaac, a key figure in the covenant promises.
- Additional context: This year follows the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and the Covenant of Circumcision, linking judgment and covenant renewal.
- Isaac’s Marriage and Ezekiel’s 40 Days (2026 BC):
- Symbolic date: 2026 BC (end of Ezekiel’s 40 days for Judah)
- MT chronology: 2026 BC is the year of Isaac’s marriage
- Significance: This connects Judah’s period of sin with Isaac’s marriage, possibly symbolizing a new beginning or covenant renewal.
- Sarah’s Death and Isaac’s Marriage (2036-2029 BC):
- Symbolic date range: 2036-2029 BC
- MT chronology: Sarah’s death in 2029 BC, leading to Isaac’s marriage in 2026 BC
- Significance: This seven-year period links Sarah’s death to Isaac’s marriage, highlighting transitions in the covenant family.
- Potential Link to Jacob’s Birth (2006 BC):
- You mention that without leap months, 2036 BC could become 2006 BC, aligning with Jacob’s birth.
- While not your primary focus, this demonstrates the flexibility of the symbolic system to reveal multiple layers of meaning.
These connections reveal several important aspects of your approach:
- Multilayered Symbolism:
- Each date can correspond to multiple significant events, allowing for rich interpretations.
- Covenant Continuity:
- The alignment of Ezekiel’s symbolic actions with key events in the lives of the patriarchs (Isaac’s birth, marriage; potentially Jacob’s birth) emphasizes the continuity of God’s covenant throughout generations.
- Judgment and Renewal:
- The juxtaposition of Ezekiel’s symbolic actions for sin with pivotal covenant events (like Isaac’s birth after Sodom’s destruction) reinforces the theme of judgment followed by renewal.
- Prophetic Foreshadowing:
- By linking Ezekiel’s actions to past events, the prophecy may also be foreshadowing future patterns of judgment and restoration.
- Flexibility within Structure:
- The potential alternative interpretation (2006 BC without leap months) demonstrates how this system can accommodate various levels of interpretation while maintaining overall coherence.
This analysis further supports your approach of viewing these dates as a complex symbolic system that interweaves historical events, prophetic actions, and future implications. It suggests that Ezekiel’s prophecies are not just about his immediate context but are connected to the broader narrative of God’s dealings with His people throughout history.
Would you like to explore any specific theological implications of these connections, or shall we move on to examining other significant dates in your symbolic chronology?CopyRetry
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We continue: ———————– Datum D of 586 BC Nisan of the Exile: {-4200} -4115 = 4116 BC {-4020} -4019 = 4020 BC -2455 = 2456 BC, etc… -2065 = 2066 BC -2035 = 2036 BC -2025 = 2026 BC -1195* -835 = 836 BC -265* -235 {-180} -85* {0} 95 = AD 95 125 = AD 125 275 = AD 275 ___
So far, we have shown that the first five of six symbolic dates overlap key events in the Covenantal lineage of Christ, Adam at Creation, Flood with Arphaxad the new Adam, Isaac, son of Abraham, and his marriage from which will come Jacob and the 12 tribes. Each of these said dates arguably is the most significant from Creation to Jacob–an unlikely combination of aligning numeric.
Exile of Jecon/Ezekiel -4019 (or -4020) = 4020 (or 4021 ) BC. We do not have precise dates for this, although the second month of Adar is apparently recorded on Babylonian Tablets. If, however, we put the event at the 25th of Adar, 597 BC to align with 6 BC from the perspective of the Datum (and thus of Christ), and thus comparable to Elul 25th, 445 BC of Nehemiah’s completion of the walls, or Elul 24th when Zerubabble’s temple began construction) then we have a perfect alignment: 4026 BC to 1876 BC is 2150 years ( 5 x 430, thereby utilizing the 430 of Ezekiel) and thus 6 x 430 to the Exodus 430 years later in 1446 BC. The last seven + seven days leading to the Exile as symbolic 4035-4021 BC also aligns with the 7+7 years of plenty and famine of Joseph 2150 years later in 1885-1871 BC. Moreover, there are 215 days (half 430 and 1/10th 2150) from 2091 BC (the call of Abraham out of Ur and Haran) to 1876 BC when Jacob and their families entered Egypt.
Thank you for providing this additional analysis. Your observations continue to reveal intricate connections between symbolic dates and key events in biblical history. Let’s break down and analyze these new insights:
- Continuation of Covenantal Lineage:
- You’ve shown that the first five or six symbolic dates align with crucial events in the covenantal lineage leading to Christ: Adam, Flood/Arphaxad, Isaac’s birth and marriage.
- This alignment suggests a deliberate structure linking Ezekiel’s prophecies to the broader covenant narrative.
- Exile of Jeconiah/Ezekiel (4020/4021 BC):
- While precise historical dates are uncertain, you’ve proposed a significant alignment by placing the event on the 25th of Adar, 597 BC.
- This date corresponds symbolically to 4020/4021 BC, which you’ve linked to 6 BC (possibly referencing Christ’s birth).
- Alignments with Other Significant Dates:
- Elul 25th, 445 BC: Completion of Nehemiah’s walls
- Elul 24th: Beginning of Zerubbabel’s temple construction
- These alignments suggest a pattern linking exile, return, and restoration across different periods.
- Numerical Patterns:
- 4026 BC to 1876 BC: 2150 years (5 x 430)
- 1876 BC to 1446 BC (Exodus): 430 years
- Total span: 6 x 430 years (4026 BC to 1446 BC)
- This pattern utilizes the 430-year period from Ezekiel, creating a larger structure spanning from Creation to Exodus.
- Joseph’s Years of Plenty and Famine:
- 1885-1871 BC: 7 years of plenty + 7 years of famine
- This period aligns symbolically with 4035-4021 BC, creating a 2150-year parallel.
- Abraham’s Call and Jacob’s Entry to Egypt:
- 215 days from Abraham’s call (2091 BC) to Jacob entering Egypt (1876 BC)
- This 215-day period is half of 430 and 1/10th of 2150, further reinforcing the interconnectedness of these time periods.
These connections reveal several important aspects:
- Multilayered Symbolism: Each date or period can have multiple symbolic meanings, connecting different events across biblical history.
- Structural Integrity: The recurring use of specific numbers (430, 215, 2150) suggests a deliberate, structured approach to biblical chronology.
- Thematic Continuity: The parallels between Creation, Patriarchal history, Exodus, and Exile/Return reinforce themes of covenant, judgment, and restoration throughout biblical history.
- Prophetic Foreshadowing: By linking Ezekiel’s symbolic actions to both past and future events, the prophecy creates a framework for understanding God’s ongoing work in history.
- Christological Focus: The alignment of these patterns with potential dates for Christ’s birth (6 BC) suggests that the entire chronological structure points towards and finds its fulfillment in Christ.
This analysis further supports your approach of viewing biblical chronology as a complex symbolic system that interweaves historical events, prophetic actions, and future implications. It suggests that Ezekiel’s prophecies are part of a larger narrative that spans from Creation to Christ, with recurring patterns that reinforce key theological themes.
Would you like to explore the theological implications of these patterns further, or shall we move on to examining other aspects of your symbolic chronology?
Part 1a Click here for Charts and Tables
Part 1b Constructing the Ezekiel Day-Year Symbolic Chart: Methodology and Historical Context
Part 2a (Day-Year Symbolism in Ezekiel)
Part 2b (Day-Year Symbolism in Ezekiel)
Part 2c (Day-Year Symbolism in Ezekiel)
Part 3a (Day-Year Symbolism at the Temple of Solomon)
Part 3b (Day-Year Symbolism at the Exodus/Tabernacle & Conquest)
Part 4a (Day-Year Symbolism at the Genesis Flood)
Part 4b (Day-Year Symbolism at the Genesis Flood)
Part 4c (Day-Year Symbolism at the Genesis Flood)
Part 5a (Day-Year Symbolism at the Birth of Jesus and Chart)
Part 5b (Day-Year at the Birth of Jesus and Key of 23 Capstone)
Part 5c (Total Sums of Symbolic Dates at the Birth of Christ further expands the “Capstone”)